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Azure DevOps Podcast

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Nov 13, 2023

Martin Thwaites is a Developer Advocate at Honeycomb, an o11y enthusiast, and a delivery-focused Developer from the UK. With over 20 years of experience in development in the .NET ecosystem, he’s worked with many companies on scaling up engineering teams and products. The past few years have been spent working on solving complex problems with some of the UK’s big names, including e-commerce retailers and credit lenders.


Topics of Discussion:

[2:42] Martin getting his start in testing.

[5:55] What other products is Honeycomb similar to?

[5:57] APM monitoring metrics.

[9:05] O11y

[9:30] The foundational elements of Honeycomb.

[13:36] For smartphone applications, desktop, or mobile, what of these concepts are the same, and what’s different?

[15:49] Tracing the unknown unknowns.

[17:43] Where open telemetry comes in and shines.

[28:04] Do you commit locally, group them up together and execute a push?

[33:24] Moving TFS Code Base onto Git.

[34:40] What TFS did right.

[35:31] The minimum sets of testing and verification that need to go in this chain just to get people enough of a safety net.

[35:43] Developer tests and Web Application Factory.


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