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Apr 1, 2024

Mads is the Lead Designer of the C# language and has been at Microsoft for 18 years. Prior to this, Mads was a professor and contributed to a language starting with J. He was previously on episode 164 of the podcast where he spoke about the latest on C# at the time.


Topics of Discussion:

[3:40] The serendipitous career path Mads took that led him to C# and Microsoft.

[6:17] Where are the high points of where the C# language has gone over the past six months?

[7:40] Adding a unified syntax.

[10:00] Primary constructors.

[15:43] Some new features in C# are still too early to see their full impact, but we can still have hypotheses about how they will affect programming.

[16:14] Non-nullable conversion.

[21:45] Learning C# and its evolution.

[23:24] The concept of everyday C#.

[26:15] C# goals.

[33:02] Does C# have a clear category?

[39:41] Generative AI.

[41:16] AI's impact on coding and the impact generative AI is having on development.

[47:17] Will AI replace the career opportunities for developers?

[51:21] Acknowledging the disruptive nature of AI with also the belief that it will lead to societal changes, including job displacement, and hopes for environmentally sustainable productivity gains.


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Ep #164: Mads Torgersen on C#10 and .NET6

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