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Azure DevOps Podcast

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Jul 20, 2020

Joining Jeffrey today is Jimmy Bogard, an Independent Consultant, long-time Microsoft MVP award recipient, C# guru, and author and maintainer of AutoMapper (as well as many other open-source projects!) He has twenty years of experience building mission-critical applications and distributed systems with extensive experience in Agile, Test-Driven Development, Domain-Driven Design, Object-Oriented Design, Service Oriented, and Distributed Systems. 


Jimmy’s convention-based object-object mapper, AutoMapper, is used by tons of teams everywhere and has over 14 million downloads on NuGet. In this episode, Jimmy speaks about the genesis of AutoMapper, how it has evolved over time, shares about his career journey, speaks about MediatR, and gives his thoughts on Blazor and beyond.


Topics of Discussion:

[:38] Be sure to visit AzureDevOps.Show for past episodes and show notes.

[:48] About The Azure DevOps Podcast and Jeffrey’s offer to speak at virtual user groups.

[1:31] About today’s episode with Jimmy Bogard!

[1:50] Jeffrey welcomes Jimmy to the show!

[2:15] Jimmy gives a rundown of his career.

[3:12] Jimmy shares his thoughts around consulting and what he misses about it.

[5:15] Jimmy tells the story of how AutoMapper got started.

[8:30] Jimmy gives some advice for those who have not used AutoMapper before.

[12:43] Jimmy speaks about the refactoring of the original AutoMapper interface to a top-level interface.

[14:51] With AutoMapper now going on 13 years old, what would Jimmy say are its main strengths? What does he always reach for it? And what uses does he advise against using it with/for?

[17:37] A word from Azure DevOps Podcast’s sponsor: Clear Measure.

[18:04] Jimmy shares some background about MediatR and how it got started!

[20:07] What MediatR started out as and how it developed over time.

[21:13] Jimmy shares about the practical uses of MediatR and why someone would want to use it.

[25:32] How the MediatR library makes it easy to codify everything your application does as a command, query, or event.

[26:24] Jeffrey and Jimmy discuss how to think about what’s complex for developers.

[28:32] Side effect of using the MediatR library: telemetry.

[30:26] Jimmy’s thoughts on Blazor and beyond!

[37:55] How to follow-up with Jimmy and find him online!


Mentioned in this Episode:

Azure DevOps

Clear Measure (Sponsor)

.NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer's Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo — Available on Amazon! — Click here to download the .NET DevOps for Azure ebook!

Jeffrey Palermo’s Youtube

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The Azure DevOps Podcast’s Twitter: @AzureDevOpsShow

Jimmy’s Blog:

Jimmy’s Twitter @JBogard


AutoMapper on NuGet









Microsoft’s MAUI Project

Microsoft Silverlight


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