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Azure DevOps Podcast

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Jan 13, 2020

On today’s podcast, Christina Rudolph is joining Jeffrey Palermo to discuss DevOps from a Product Manager’s perspective!


Christina Rudolph has been a Product Manager at Clear Measure since November 2019. Previously, she served as Vice President of Operations for SAFE 2 SAVE from 2018 to 2019, she is the Founder and was Executive Director of the Friends of Hamilton ISD Education Foundation from 2011 to 2018, and an Information Technology Project Manager at Accenture from 2001 to 2008. She has had an incredible career and is really experienced in unifying teams through proven strategies, natural leadership, and concise decision making.


As a Product Manager, Christina has a unique perspective to bring the table in today’s episode! She shares what developers can do to help the non-technical people involved in their organization, how to give more accurate estimations when planning projects, addresses some of the biggest challenges for a Product Manager when interfacing with the development team, and more! 


Topics of Discussion:

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[:53] Jeffrey gives some quick announcements.

[1:08] About today’s episode and guest!

[1:32] Jeffrey welcomes Christina on to the podcast.

[1:40] Christina provides some background on the various software roles she has held over the course of her career.

[4:18] Are some of the challenges from 2 decades ago in shipping software still similar to today?

[7:03] As a Product Manager, what does Christina need from a development team? And what can developers do to help the non-technical people involved in their organization?

[12:30] A quick word from Azure DevOps Podcast’s sponsor: Clear Measure.

[12:55] Jeffrey gives some quick announcements.

[13:33] Why are we still struggling to solve the age-old problem of estimating and planning projects?

[18:07] The biggest challenges for a Product Manager when interfacing with the development team and how Christina recommends addressing them.

[19:55] Where should people go to learn more?


Mentioned in this Episode:

Azure DevOps

Clear Measure (Sponsor)

.NET DevOps Bootcamp 2020 — January 16th & 17th in Austin, T.X.

.NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer's Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo — Available on Amazon! — Click here to download the .NET DevOps for Azure ebook! — Visit to get your hands on two free books to give away at conferences or events!

Jeffrey Palermo’s Youtube

Jeffrey Palermo’s Twitter Follow to stay informed about future events! Email Jeffrey for a free 30-point DevOps inspection (regularly priced at $5000!) Spaces are limited!

Christina Rudolph’s LinkedIn


Capers Jones

The Mythical Man-Month: Essays on Software Engineering, by Frederick P. Brooks Jr.

Project Management Body of Knowledge (PMBOK)


Want to Learn More?

Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.